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We’re moving to CuseCountry.com

Posted by Tim on August 24, 2007

DC is Cuse Country

This is a photo of a sign blog contributor Josh made before a game against Georgetown in Washington. It became something of a running joke in our crew: Wherever we were, that was Cuse Country. When it came time to name this little project of ours, it seemed a natural fit. Holy crap, the Internet is Cuse Country!

Now, the time has come to move to nicer real estate. And with football season looming like an orange cloud of noxious gas, we’re moving to a new address that doesn’t have “hoops” in the URL.

So come visit us at CuseCountry.com. Same great stuff, new great home.

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it could be worse

Posted by syracusan on February 13, 2007

While it’s been rough being a Syracuse hoops fan this season, I couldn’t help getting some perspective over the weekend. For instance, at least we didn’t get crushed on national TV by a mediocre ACC team the way UConn did. A few weeks ago, before UConn’s tailspin got really serious, Seth Davis on CBS said it was time to stop talking about whether or not Connecticut was going to make the NCAA Tournament, and start talking about whether they can even make the Big East Tournament. I got a kick out of that, and allowed myself at least 5 seconds of schadenfreude, before realizing There but for the grace of God go we. I also didn’t entirely take Seth seriously, but UConn’s craptastic young kids have made a seer out of him.

As recently as–I don’t know, say–6 weeks ago, most college basketball fans on the planet would have been willing to bet real money that UConn wouldn’t miss a Big East Tourney any time in the next 15 or so years. I’m not sure what odds someone would have had to give me to take the other side, but they’d have had to be steep. Almost impossibly steep. Yet here we are, Feb 13th, and UConn’s only a game out of being in the bottom 4. Despite beating us, there isn’t any evidence that they’re getting better, or that they can beat anyone without getting 6000 extra fouls called in their favor by the refs. I’d give it even odds they’ll slip into the Forgotten Four.

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Posted in ACC, Big East, Big East Tournament, greg paulus, Rankings, St. John's, UConn | 3 Comments »

conference scores

Posted by syracusan on December 5, 2006

I haven’t bitched and moaned about Big East disrespect in a while, so it’s time for a notable scores update in case folks haven’t been scanning the returns over the last few days. (Notable to me generally means Big East teams beating ranked and/or BCS teams.)

  • DePaul beat then #5 Kansas 64-57.
  • Notre Dame won 81-74 AT then #19 Maryland. Of the ACC. Bitches.
  • Then #3 Pitt won at Auburn of the SEC, 74-66.
  • Rutgers beat then 5-0 Nebraska of the Big 12, 75-73. (not a big name team, but I’ll take it)

I’m feeling unusually fair, so I’ll report on the losses too. The only head to head setbacks to BCS schools that I could find recently both come from Georgetown. The struggling Hoyas lost at home to 6-0 Oregon last week, and then hung tight with Duke down at Cameron until fading in the final two minutes. G-Town dropped from the polls this week, but looked good for most of the game against the Dookies. They’ll be fine.

For the record, during the Georgetown-Duke game on ESPN, Dick Vitale mentioned how many bad losses the Big East has this year and that the league doesn’t have the depth it had last year. No mention of any wins of note. In Mr. Vitale’s world the Big East is made up entirely of Cincinatti and Seton Hall.

There were, of course, some losses to midmajors this week, most notably from Syracuse and Marquette. SU got stung a little in the polls, but I’m glad to see that Wichita State is getting respect for beating us, shooting up to 10th in the AP poll. The Golden Eagles took the worst of it though, plummeting 9 spots in the AP and ELEVEN spots in the Coaches thanks to their loss to North Dakota State. The media and coaches are so full of shit with their rhetoric about midmajors – why else would Marquette, who still beat Duke earlier this year, take such a hit? ND St is a solid team, who already beat up on Wisconsin-Green Bay and Princeton and only lost at Texas Tech by 4. It’s not a crime to lose to midmajors of this quality, yet Marquette and SU get nailed for it.

For comparison’s sake: Florida loses their 2nd game already, to an average Florida State team, and only drop from 4 to 7. Maryland loses that game to Notre Dame and drops no spots. Georgia Tech loses to a mediocre Miami team and drops only 4 spots. Some of this is ACC favoritism, but Michigan State lost last week to BC and went from unranked to 25th! There’s still all kinds of major program bias when judging the acceptability of losses, which is such crap considering how much lecturing the media gives big schools for being afraid to schedule feisty midmajors.

In related news, the polls have gone crazy this week. UConn is 10th in one and 19th in the other. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a difference that large. Frankly, they don’t deserve to be 10th, but that’s neither here nor there. Michigan State is 25th in one poll, as I mentioned, but approximately 37th in the other, based on votes. Is this parity, or just laziness?

FYI, Oklahoma State moved into the rankings at 22 and 24, so SU gets to play back to back games against ranked opponents. Not the norm for this time of year to be sure. If we win later tonight though, it’ll go a long way towards securing our reputation until the Big East gets going.

Posted in ACC, Big 12, Big East, Cincinnati, DePaul, Georgetown, Haters, In the Media, Losses, Marquette, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Pitt, Rankings, Rutgers, UConn, Wichita State | 3 Comments »

Lies, damned lies, and polls

Posted by Tim on December 4, 2006

Via Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician, I see that SU is ranked fourth in the Big East Bloggers Weekly Power Poll. It’s nice to see that not everyone is freaking out over our stunning, surprising, astonishing loss to Wichita State.

Meanwhile, the boys in Orange fell to 21 in both the AP and ESPN/USAToday polls.

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new rankings

Posted by syracusan on November 28, 2006

SU jumped from 17 to 15 in the AP poll this week, and held steady at 14th in the Coaches poll. For once, I’m reasonably satisfied with our position. Despite playing 20 whole minutes of decent basketball tonight vs. Holy Cross, the Orange haven’t done anything yet to deserve being ranked any higher. Holy Cross may end up being a pretty good team this year though, so keep an eye on this win proving to be a boon in the RPI by the end of the year.

I do have some other issues with the polls though. Duke, who lost last week, fell only two spots in each poll, to 10th and 11th. Meanwhile Georgetown, who won their only game last week, dropped SEVEN spots in the Coaches poll, to 23rd. They also dropped two spots in the AP poll. WTF? Granted they beat a shitty team, but Maryland only beat creampuffs Winthrop and “High Point” (??) last week, and they surged five spots. Typical bullshit.

In other news, Wichita State is up to 17th and 22nd in the two polls. We might lose to them by 20. Mid-majors are flexing muscles all over the place, with Butler at 18th and 19th, the Zags at 21st and 22nd, and Nevada at 24th in the AP. UNC dropped out of the top 5 in both polls, and our boys at Pitt get to spend a week all the way up at #2 in the AP, even though they frankly haven’t done a damn thing this year to prove themselves.

Here’s the key info:

AP
2. Pitt
8. Marquette
15. SU
18. G-Town
20. UConn
Votes: West Virginia, Louisville, Nova

Coaches
3. Pitt
9. Marquette
14. SU
15. UConn
23. G-Town
Votes: Louisville

Posted in ACC, Big East, Georgetown, Haters, Holy Cross, Rankings, RPI, Wichita State | Leave a Comment »

Zags and Friars

Posted by syracusan on November 23, 2006

I’m not going to lie, after class this evening I went out drinking with my grad school people and I had no idea what happened with the SU game until about an hour ago. Josh gave a great summary though, so I won’t mess around with it too much. I’m psyched about Harris continuing to crash the boards, and I’m about ready to guarantee that if he averages a double-double off the bench we can get ready to watch him in the NBA next year.

Moving on, I’ll take this opportunity to point out two fun results from the world of college basketball this evening. First, you may recall that Tim mentioned an article that crapped on the Big East because Providence lost to Brown earlier this year. As if anyone should give a shit what Providence does. My question is, now that Providence has beaten ACC “powerhouse” Boston College, will we see any articles acknowledging that? Probably not. BC was picked to come in roughly third in the ACC, and started the season ranked somewhere in the top 15 of both polls. Providence was picked to scrape the crap off the boots of the Big East’s real teams this year, and started the season ranked somewhere behind my junior high school. No one expects them to make it to MSG for the B.E. tournament. But I expect this victory will still somehow go unmentioned.

In other news, #2 ranked UNC went down this evening as well. I can’t brag about yet another massive upset by Gonzaga, because I can claim no ownership over that team or their consistently amazing achievements, but I can still send them ridiculous piles of respect. I know that yet another Zag win over a top ten team seems about as exceptional as a sun rise, but in fact they hadn’t beaten anyone ranked quite this high before. As Mark Few said, he’ll take the Tournament wins in March over the fancy wins in November, but that doesn’t mean we can’t dish out props in the mean time. Also, they’re now 8-1 vs the ACC all time, including 7 straight wins against ranked ACC teams. You can’t ask for more than that. One wonders if they shouldn’t replace the mismatched “ACC-Big Ten Challenge” with an “ACC-Gonzaga Challenge”. I’ve been saying for years now that the Zags are America’s Team, and this only reinforces it. Bless those little bastards, I’ll watch them play any day of the week.

Posted in ACC, Big East, Haters, In the Media, Paul Harris, Providence, Rankings | 1 Comment »

Marquette “upsets” Duke 73-62

Posted by syracusan on November 22, 2006

MarquetteThe Big East had a couple of tough losses today, which I’m sure the haters are going to find a way to gripe about. League bottom-feeder Rutgers, who apparently will be truly awful this year, lost at home to previously 0-4 Jackson State. Ouch. Meanwhile, the Bob Huggins-less Cincinnati lost at home to, um, Wofford. OK, so not a great showing. But neither of those teams was picked in the top ten of the conference this season.

HOWEVER, some shit went down in Missouri tonight at the CBE Classic. Marquette, who is not a bottom feeder, took Coach K and the Blue Devils behind the barn for an old fashion re-education. Welcome to the Big East, Golden Eagles. I already like you more than the last Eagles that we had. Marquette is ranked 13th and 17th in the polls, whereas Duke was 8th and 9th. Marquette, who also beat Bobby Knight’s previously undefeated Texas Tech squad the night before, should swing into the top ten after this. Duke meanwhile…well, they’ll probably move up to 5th or so.

Even sweeter: Syracuse native and notorious turncoat Greg Paulus had 7 points, 6 turnovers, and no rebounds before fouling out trying to deal with last year’s Big East rookie of the year, Dominic James. Good job, traitor. Devendorf is 6 times better anyway, I’m glad your overrated ass is down south. If Duke is counting on Paulus to be their next superstar, it’s going to be a long year.

Posted in ACC, Big East, Cincinnati, Eric Devendorf, Haters, Marquette, Rankings, Rutgers | 1 Comment »

Giant-killers get a little bit bigger

Posted by Tim on November 21, 2006

If Wichita State isn’t careful, they’re going to play their way out of underdog status. The Shockers made their first appearance in the sportswriters’ poll since 1983 today, landing at No. 24. (They just missed cracking the Top 25 in the coaches’ poll.) I guess their weekend victory over George Mason reminded everyone of their surprising run to the Sweet 16 last year. Either that or there must be something really astonishing or outrageous or stupeyfing about their victories over Rockhurst or Chicago State. Or am I missing something? More importantly, will Doug Gottlieb give us credit if we beat them now?

And now for the news:

  • SU is ranked 14th in today’s ESPN/USA Today poll and 17th in the new AP poll.

  • It’s hard to see what FoxSports.com’s Jeff Goodman is driving at in this column. I guess he’s trying to add up embarrassing losses by bad Big East teams (Rutgers to Kansas State, Providence to Brown, Seton Hall to Fairleigh Dickinson, DePaul to everyone) and Georgetown’s upset at the hands of Old Dominion to conclude that the Big East is overrated. Along the way, he knocks St. John’s for losing to Maryland and Texas, and Syracuse, UConn and Pitt for winning against weak opposition.

    To which I respond thusly.

    Should Georgetown have lost to Old Dominion? No. But it’s tough to take too much away from St. John’s, a team that went 12-15 last year, for losing to a pair of major-conference squads. And Butler, which beat Pitt Notre Dame last week, also beat Indiana and today received a handful of votes in the coaches’ poll.

    And SU is going to beat Wichita State next week. So take that, Gottlieb Jr.

  • Etan Thomas gets love from Sports Illustrated. Check out those guns! The man is ripped!!

  • Deadspin questions the logic behind leaving Paul Harris off the McDonald’s All-American Team.

Posted in Former Orangemen, Haters, News of the Orange, Rankings, Wichita State | 1 Comment »

the conference you love to hate

Posted by syracusan on November 15, 2006

I am not a fan of the ACC. Everyone knows this, I don’t try to hide it. Thus, yesterday, when I saw that 14th ranked Boston College managed to lose at home to Vermont, I was psyched. BC is second only to Duke on my shit list, being in the ACC and a backstabbing Judas to the Big East (despite being a northeastern school). In my joy at reading Jared Dudley’s pained quotes from the game, it occurred to me that one of my duties on this blog should be to update the world on the latest and greatest examples of ACC failure.

Granted, the hatred isn’t as satisfying as it once was. Oh sure, I still seethe at Dick Vitale, Doug Gottlieb, and Billy Packer when they insist on fellating the ACC in public regardless of performance; but now that the Big East is so ridiculously stacked, it’s not as much of a competition as it used to be. Now we can count on the majority of the national media acknowledging the Big East is by far the best league in America, and in fact the depth of the league is going to be a terror for Syracuse year in and year out. The ACC will still be overhyped, and we’ll still have to suffer endless faux-poetic rhapsodizing on their history, tradition, and “atmosphere”, but statistically they can’t compete anymore. My hatred for the ACC used to be based on the country’s lack of respect for my team’s league, but now it’s just a general habit of annoyance.

So, to the numbers: The ACC has all of 3 teams in the top 20 to start the season (compared to the Big East’s 5). UNC at #2, Duke at #10, and the aforementioned BC at #14. Granted they’re in the ACC, so they may rise in the polls after their loss. Fuckers. Georgia Tech slipped in at #21, for the record.

The Big East comes out like so:
5. Pitt
8. G-Town
17. Marquette
19. UConn
20. Syracuse

Louisville, Villanova, and DePaul pulled in some votes also, though DePaul’s started 0-2 so that’s going to be short lived. But expect Nova to be solidly ranked by the end of the year, and no one should bet against Pitino’s boys. The league is ridiculously stacked, the more I look at it. It’s a lock that 8 teams are making the Tourney, and probably 4 more have legit outside hopes. Some good teams are going to end up with crap records thanks to that murderers row; there’s almost no nights off. It’s a good year to have 3 senior starters, like Syracuse does.

Oh yeah, and fyi in the new AP poll the Orange moved up to #18. It’s a little early for Joe Lunardi to get on the shit list, but an 8 seed is strange given what everyone else in the country thinks.

Posted in ACC, Big East, Bracketology, DePaul, In the Media, Louisville, Rankings, Villanova | 3 Comments »