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We’re moving to

Posted by Tim on August 24, 2007

DC is Cuse Country

This is a photo of a sign blog contributor Josh made before a game against Georgetown in Washington. It became something of a running joke in our crew: Wherever we were, that was Cuse Country. When it came time to name this little project of ours, it seemed a natural fit. Holy crap, the Internet is Cuse Country!

Now, the time has come to move to nicer real estate. And with football season looming like an orange cloud of noxious gas, we’re moving to a new address that doesn’t have “hoops” in the URL.

So come visit us at Same great stuff, new great home.


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An open letter to NBA general managers: You seem to have forgotten about Terrence Roberts

Posted by Tom on July 2, 2007

Soaking in the recent megabuzz surrounding this year’s NBA draft, I was pleased to notice the names of Syracuse studs Demetris Nichols and Daryl Watkins tossed around by your ilk. They’re good players, and their likely signing to one of your rosters will serve you well. But in everything from the pre-draft buzz to the draft day reality, the absence of one man’s name from the chatter seemed inexplicable. Left out of the field was a chiseled 6-9 athlete carrying 230 pounds of pure muscle. A man with the heart of a lion, and the power, hunger, and coachability of a kodiak bear. That’s right, NBA general managers. Right about now you should be getting that sinking feeling like you just left your ATM card at a gas station 200 miles back. The time has come for you to explain to your fans how you let Terrence Roberts slip through the cracks. Read the rest of this entry »

Posted in Big East, Demetris Nichols, Former Orangemen, Haters, kodiak bears, Mookie Watkins, NBA, Open Letter, syracuse, Terrence Roberts, Uncategorized | Leave a Comment »


Posted by Josh on March 7, 2007

This is a public service announcement from the Bureau of Prevention. All the people who were saying “I still don’t think Syracuse is going to make the tournament” a few hours ago please Shut the F Up. Thank you. Stand clear of the closing doors.

Posted in Big East Tournament, Haters, NCAA Tournament, UConn, Wins | Leave a Comment »

Knowing is half the battle against Doug Gottlieb

Posted by Tim on February 28, 2007

Orange hater extraordinaire Doug Gottlieb must have seen a lot of pointed SU questions in his queue when he showed up for today’s chat, because he started it by saying this: “Ok—Let’s start with the Cuse–they were great last night and the big key was putting Wright on the pine and letting Rautins on the floor—barring a collapse in the BE tourney—I think they are in… Ok Cuse fans… .”

For those who don’t know, Gottlieb has been Public Enemy No. 1 at SU since early 2005 when, early on in his stint at ESPN, he accused some Big East teams, including Syracuse, of playing non-conference schedules so easy they were “fraudulent.”Gottlieb wasn’t the only one knocking SU’s early season schedule that year. Here’s Jimmy B.’s response to the haters:

They don’t know what they’re talking about so I don’t pay much attention to them. … One guy in particular was in our league for a minute or two but he couldn’t play in it. He seems to do the most talking, probably because he wasn’t a very good player and he’s not very smart about basketball.

The essential piece of information alluded to, but not explicitly said, in Boeheim’s response is that Gottlieb transferred to Oklahoma State from Notre Dame after his freshman year after he allegedly stole his roommate’s credit card and ran up hundreds of dollars worth of charges. So “fraudulent” probably wasn’t the wisest choice of words.

Now you know…

UPDATE: Visit our friends at TNIAAM for the latest shot Boeheim fired at Gottlieb.

Posted in Haters, Jim Boeheim | 4 Comments »

The Big East: Possibly Not Number 1

Posted by syracusan on January 17, 2007

I know it’s hard to believe, but there’s a slight chance that the Big East is not the best conference in America. At least not this year. Acknowledging this is a major concession on my part, so everybody better enjoy this moment of honesty while it lasts; it probably won’t happen again. Considering that the collective league RPI is hovering somewhere around 7th, I have to accept that there’s been a drop off from last year. Whenever you’re behind the PAC-10, you know something has gone horribly wrong.

That said, there’s a purpose to this intro. Even though the Big East has generally got it’s tail whipped by other conferences like the SEC and the Big 12 this year, and dropped way too many games to mid-level teams, there’s an interesting stat out there that I guarantee you’ll never hear Dick Vitale or Doug Gottlieb mention: the Big East has completely dominated the ACC this year.

You heard it here first. While the Big 10 continues it’s ridiculous yearly embarrassment at the hands of the ACC in their “challenge” series, the Big East once again has quietly kicked the ass of the allegedly premier conference. According to my calculations, the Big East went 8-5 against the ACC this year. I didn’t check to see if there are any more mid-seasons games between the two leagues, but in all likelihood there won’t be any more until the NCAAs. So 8-5 will stand. Here’s the results:

Big East wins:

  1. South Florida beat Wake Forest
  2. Notre Dame won at Maryland
  3. Louisville beat Miami
  4. Marquette won at Duke
  5. West Virginia beat NC State
  6. DePaul beat Wake Forest
  7. Cincinnati beat NC State
  8. Providence beat Boston College

ACC wins:

  1. GTown lost at Duke
  2. Rutgers lost at UNC
  3. Providence lost at Florida State
  4. Seton Hall lost to Virginia Tech
  5. St Johns lost to Maryland

The Big East had a slight advantage in home games, but they made up for it with more quality wins. The only good Big East team to lose to an ACC team was Georgetown. Meanwhile quality ACC teams like Duke, Maryland, and BC all hit the deck to Big East foes.  Also, the Big East accumulated this record despite having three of it’s best teams – Pitt, UConn, and Syracuse – not play any games against the ACC this year.

I’ll give someone a hundred dollars if they ever hear Vitale mention this stat.

Posted in ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, Haters, Nonconference Games, Pac 10, RPI, SEC | 3 Comments »

The Truth

Posted by Tim on December 5, 2006

What OrangeRay said:

There is hypocrisy in who you play. If you schedule a mid-major team (a Bucknell or a Butler), you risk a lot with little in return. When you win the game, announcers will say it was just another win against a creampuff non-conference team. But… you have a chance of losing to those mid-major schools, because as we are now all aware, they are dangerous to play. And losing to those schools will hurt you (any loss should hurt).

If you want teams like SU to play teams like Wichita State, you can’t punish them for losing. Not like you would for losing to a team with a sub-200 RPI. Fortunately the selection committee understands this. It’s too bad so many college basketball pundits don’t (link via TNIAAM).

Posted in Haters, Orange Blogosphere | 1 Comment »

conference scores

Posted by syracusan on December 5, 2006

I haven’t bitched and moaned about Big East disrespect in a while, so it’s time for a notable scores update in case folks haven’t been scanning the returns over the last few days. (Notable to me generally means Big East teams beating ranked and/or BCS teams.)

  • DePaul beat then #5 Kansas 64-57.
  • Notre Dame won 81-74 AT then #19 Maryland. Of the ACC. Bitches.
  • Then #3 Pitt won at Auburn of the SEC, 74-66.
  • Rutgers beat then 5-0 Nebraska of the Big 12, 75-73. (not a big name team, but I’ll take it)

I’m feeling unusually fair, so I’ll report on the losses too. The only head to head setbacks to BCS schools that I could find recently both come from Georgetown. The struggling Hoyas lost at home to 6-0 Oregon last week, and then hung tight with Duke down at Cameron until fading in the final two minutes. G-Town dropped from the polls this week, but looked good for most of the game against the Dookies. They’ll be fine.

For the record, during the Georgetown-Duke game on ESPN, Dick Vitale mentioned how many bad losses the Big East has this year and that the league doesn’t have the depth it had last year. No mention of any wins of note. In Mr. Vitale’s world the Big East is made up entirely of Cincinatti and Seton Hall.

There were, of course, some losses to midmajors this week, most notably from Syracuse and Marquette. SU got stung a little in the polls, but I’m glad to see that Wichita State is getting respect for beating us, shooting up to 10th in the AP poll. The Golden Eagles took the worst of it though, plummeting 9 spots in the AP and ELEVEN spots in the Coaches thanks to their loss to North Dakota State. The media and coaches are so full of shit with their rhetoric about midmajors – why else would Marquette, who still beat Duke earlier this year, take such a hit? ND St is a solid team, who already beat up on Wisconsin-Green Bay and Princeton and only lost at Texas Tech by 4. It’s not a crime to lose to midmajors of this quality, yet Marquette and SU get nailed for it.

For comparison’s sake: Florida loses their 2nd game already, to an average Florida State team, and only drop from 4 to 7. Maryland loses that game to Notre Dame and drops no spots. Georgia Tech loses to a mediocre Miami team and drops only 4 spots. Some of this is ACC favoritism, but Michigan State lost last week to BC and went from unranked to 25th! There’s still all kinds of major program bias when judging the acceptability of losses, which is such crap considering how much lecturing the media gives big schools for being afraid to schedule feisty midmajors.

In related news, the polls have gone crazy this week. UConn is 10th in one and 19th in the other. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a difference that large. Frankly, they don’t deserve to be 10th, but that’s neither here nor there. Michigan State is 25th in one poll, as I mentioned, but approximately 37th in the other, based on votes. Is this parity, or just laziness?

FYI, Oklahoma State moved into the rankings at 22 and 24, so SU gets to play back to back games against ranked opponents. Not the norm for this time of year to be sure. If we win later tonight though, it’ll go a long way towards securing our reputation until the Big East gets going.

Posted in ACC, Big 12, Big East, Cincinnati, DePaul, Georgetown, Haters, In the Media, Losses, Marquette, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Pitt, Rankings, Rutgers, UConn, Wichita State | 3 Comments »

new rankings

Posted by syracusan on November 28, 2006

SU jumped from 17 to 15 in the AP poll this week, and held steady at 14th in the Coaches poll. For once, I’m reasonably satisfied with our position. Despite playing 20 whole minutes of decent basketball tonight vs. Holy Cross, the Orange haven’t done anything yet to deserve being ranked any higher. Holy Cross may end up being a pretty good team this year though, so keep an eye on this win proving to be a boon in the RPI by the end of the year.

I do have some other issues with the polls though. Duke, who lost last week, fell only two spots in each poll, to 10th and 11th. Meanwhile Georgetown, who won their only game last week, dropped SEVEN spots in the Coaches poll, to 23rd. They also dropped two spots in the AP poll. WTF? Granted they beat a shitty team, but Maryland only beat creampuffs Winthrop and “High Point” (??) last week, and they surged five spots. Typical bullshit.

In other news, Wichita State is up to 17th and 22nd in the two polls. We might lose to them by 20. Mid-majors are flexing muscles all over the place, with Butler at 18th and 19th, the Zags at 21st and 22nd, and Nevada at 24th in the AP. UNC dropped out of the top 5 in both polls, and our boys at Pitt get to spend a week all the way up at #2 in the AP, even though they frankly haven’t done a damn thing this year to prove themselves.

Here’s the key info:

2. Pitt
8. Marquette
15. SU
18. G-Town
20. UConn
Votes: West Virginia, Louisville, Nova

3. Pitt
9. Marquette
14. SU
15. UConn
23. G-Town
Votes: Louisville

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atrocities in Western New York

Posted by syracusan on November 26, 2006

At first I was excited to see that the Met’s channel, SNY, was finally contributing something positive to society by televising tonight’s SU game vs. Canisius. But given the competitive product put out on the floor by my guys tonight, I think I’d be a happier person not to have witnessed it. Though Syracuse “won” the game 81-71, there’s no way to sugar coat how awful they were in almost all phases of the game.

They got annihilated on the boards by a scrubby MAAC team with no first tier talent. The zone was atrocious all night, the offense had no rhythm, they couldn’t hit a foul shot, Canisius penetrated and got open threes no matter which defense we were in, no one could hit a jumper, etc etc. Matt Gorman started and looked totally flummoxed by the Griffins’ speed and athleticism (yes, seriously); Devendorf was completely invisible for the first 30 minutes of the game; Mike Jones came in when Jimmy got fed up with the starters, then promptly got yanked after 30 seconds due to awfulness; Andy Rautins looked like he’s only interested in shooting threes, and that other facets of the game are mere inconveniences. Paul Harris was heading for the scorers table 90 seconds into the game. Just start him, Jimmy.

The only reason the team was in it at all in the first half was Harris’ scoring and rebounding, and Nichols’ steady play. The switch to man-to-man took Canisius out of their comfort zone, but the exorbitant turnovers created in the 2nd half were not to our credit. Canisius exerted so much effort in the first half that they had nothing left in the tank down the stretch. Their passing and dribbling got lazy, and our guys were in much better shape and able to take advantage of the sloppiness. But it wasn’t due to particularly sharp D. In fact, I think it’s about time to get Mookie back from his wierd nose injury so the team can get its defensive personality in order.

We did one thing genuinely well: consistent aggressive play on offense created massive foul problems for Canisius, which contributed to their exhaustion when their big guys started fouling out. Most of the whistles were drawn by Harris and J Wright, who played a good game as an individual offensive player, though still looked highly ineffective as a floor general. I know the stats show Wright with 8 dimes, but most of those came in fast break situations. Our half court sets were disjointed and hard to watch, and overall I think the team operates a little smoother with Harris at the top. For the record, Devo looked even worse than Wright at the point, and he didn’t pick up his game tonight until late in the 2nd half when he turned back into a pure scorer.

We pulled it out in the 2nd half thanks to the Griffins’ foul trouble, ball handling problems, and inability to handle our speed and athleticism in transition. Gorman had a nice sequence when he finally got back in, and Terrence was key in sticking the knife in with a series of vicious dunks down the stretch to go with his 2nd half block party. Devo more than anyone benefited from all the turnovers, getting several easy layups in a row to extend the lead to a safe distance and make his box score look better than it should have. Harris, proving he’s not perfect, mostly disappeared in the 2nd half, though he did valuable grunt work drawing fouls and keying breaks. Too bad he missed all his foul shots. I would’ve liked to see one more rebound to keep his double-double party going, but he ended up stuck to the bench in the final minutes. Boeheim gave him a breather down the stretch, and when Canisius kept it close and started fouling at the end, he wouldn’t send him back in because of the foul shooting problems. That’s something to watch out for going forward.

The MVP was obviously Nichols, the only guy to show up for both halves. He’s steady, and he’s good at hitting shots when the other team starts thinking about other guys. It would be great if he could show up on defense as well as he has on offense, but at least we have one veteran showing some consistency early in the season.

I’m watching the Gators and Jayhawks pound on each other right now on ESPN2, and I can assure everyone out there that we’d lose to either of these teams by about 75 points if we played them right now. Some serious works needs to be done or we’re going to get embarrassed by Wichita State on our home floor.


Dickie V is doing the game and he announced his top six Diaper Dandies for the year. Guess who isn’t on the list? I don’t know much about the other guys, though I did see Kevin Durant down at Texas once and he lit it up. But there’s no way all 6 of those guys are better than Harris. Yet another reason to slap some duct tape on Vitale’s mouth.

Posted in Andy Rautins, Canisius, Demetris Nichols, Eric Devendorf, Haters, Jim Boeheim, Josh Wright, Matt Gorman, Mike Jones, Mookie Watkins, Nonconference Games, Paul Harris, Regular Season Games, Terrence Roberts, Wichita State, Wins | Leave a Comment »

Zags and Friars

Posted by syracusan on November 23, 2006

I’m not going to lie, after class this evening I went out drinking with my grad school people and I had no idea what happened with the SU game until about an hour ago. Josh gave a great summary though, so I won’t mess around with it too much. I’m psyched about Harris continuing to crash the boards, and I’m about ready to guarantee that if he averages a double-double off the bench we can get ready to watch him in the NBA next year.

Moving on, I’ll take this opportunity to point out two fun results from the world of college basketball this evening. First, you may recall that Tim mentioned an article that crapped on the Big East because Providence lost to Brown earlier this year. As if anyone should give a shit what Providence does. My question is, now that Providence has beaten ACC “powerhouse” Boston College, will we see any articles acknowledging that? Probably not. BC was picked to come in roughly third in the ACC, and started the season ranked somewhere in the top 15 of both polls. Providence was picked to scrape the crap off the boots of the Big East’s real teams this year, and started the season ranked somewhere behind my junior high school. No one expects them to make it to MSG for the B.E. tournament. But I expect this victory will still somehow go unmentioned.

In other news, #2 ranked UNC went down this evening as well. I can’t brag about yet another massive upset by Gonzaga, because I can claim no ownership over that team or their consistently amazing achievements, but I can still send them ridiculous piles of respect. I know that yet another Zag win over a top ten team seems about as exceptional as a sun rise, but in fact they hadn’t beaten anyone ranked quite this high before. As Mark Few said, he’ll take the Tournament wins in March over the fancy wins in November, but that doesn’t mean we can’t dish out props in the mean time. Also, they’re now 8-1 vs the ACC all time, including 7 straight wins against ranked ACC teams. You can’t ask for more than that. One wonders if they shouldn’t replace the mismatched “ACC-Big Ten Challenge” with an “ACC-Gonzaga Challenge”. I’ve been saying for years now that the Zags are America’s Team, and this only reinforces it. Bless those little bastards, I’ll watch them play any day of the week.

Posted in ACC, Big East, Haters, In the Media, Paul Harris, Providence, Rankings | 1 Comment »